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Balgus82 01-13-2012 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30543)
Maybe a cat clan that tygra is from and pumyra and Ben-Gali are in. Maybe they rest there for a while. The stones are spread out a round 3rd earth.

She looked like she was on steriods.

I don't have a clue or guess. I think the writers had her out of the picture, so we wouldn't know she was the last SoO bearer.

You know we might aruge about the triangle, but have you seen Naruto?

Naruto/Sakura/Sasuke/Hintia, it can get nasty.


I kinda think Pumyra and Bengali will be in a group of refugees that escape the destruction of Thundera. Either they'll be traveling in a caravan or they'll have a small village settled. But I think they'll still be Thunderians.

Yeah I've seen Naruto. With them I've of the Opinion that Sakura really doesn't have any interest in Nartuo and He'll end up with Hinata. He doesn't dislike Hinata, he just hasn't really noticed her yet. I think Sakura will end up alone though because Sasuke is pretty far gone to the dark side.

L08e16o 01-13-2012 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30486)
If they are going with Cheetara cannot choose between the brothers after knowing Lion-O's feelings, Cheetara will not flirt with either brothers for a while regardless her connection with Lion-O and the SoO. The evolved triangle scale in equal mode. If they will do some of the JL style, Lion-O/Cheetara/Tygra learning that L/C will have an offspring in the future, that will eat Tygra up.:D

The Cheetara/Lion-O/SoO connections will definitely help their relationship. No matter how/what they are going to do with it.

I hope they wouldn't do the offspring.

The have given little clues about the connection.

When lion-o said ho, they didn't show how he usually does the sword. I think they wanted to show cheetara's connection.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 30544)
I kinda think Pumyra and Bengali will be in a group of refugees that escape the destruction of Thundera. Either they'll be traveling in a caravan or they'll have a small village settled. But I think they'll still be Thunderians.

Yeah I've seen Naruto. With them I've of the Opinion that Sakura really doesn't have any interest in Nartuo and He'll end up with Hinata. He doesn't dislike Hinata, he just hasn't really noticed her yet. I think Sakura will end up alone though because Sasuke is pretty far gone to the dark side.

I can't see sasuke and sakura, he has tried to kill her twice.

Balgus82 01-14-2012 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30546)
I can't see sasuke and sakura, he has tried to kill her twice.

Exactly. Sasuke might as well be asexual. He's never shown interest in anything but revenge.

cmangund 01-14-2012 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30545)
I hope they wouldn't do the offspring.

The have given little clues about the connection.

When lion-o said ho, they didn't show how he usually does the sword. I think they wanted to show cheetara's connection.

Just something that crossed my mind that's all.

Yeah so far no other clues aside from what we have seen from the show, the build up, of connecting the Lion-O/Cheetara thing with the SoO.

cmangund 01-14-2012 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30539)
If at the end of the next season it is T/C, then there will be no discussions.

If it is L/C at the end of the next season, then that is another story.

L/C angle could continue on not just Ep14 could be 3 parter. But slim chance it will be T/C angle again, unless WB went nuts. The turnover could go slow, medium or fast or equal grounds until the end of season2.

cmangund 01-14-2012 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30506)
Agreed.

That is what they like to do. Add drama to build layers.

Wonder if Annet's has another prediction, think cheetara will act on it again?

Exactly.

If anet has another one of his predictions again involving Lion-O in particular I am sure Cheetara will act on it.

stormbringer 01-14-2012 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30550)
Just something that crossed my mind that's all.

Yeah so far no other clues aside from what we have seen from the show, the build up, of connecting the Lion-O/Cheetara thing with the SoO.

I've been wondering, if Cheetara is linked to the warstone, could Mummra find someone linked to the other stones and get them to serve him?

cmangund 01-14-2012 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30555)
I've been wondering, if Cheetara is linked to the warstone, could Mummra find someone linked to the other stones and get them to serve him?

It's possible I think. Maybe Mumm-Ra will use that method you mention to get the other stones and new allies, since direct approach always no go. Thus new alliances.

stormbringer 01-14-2012 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30556)
It's possible I think. Maybe Mumm-Ra will use that method you mention to get the other stones and new allies, since direct approach always no go. Thus new alliances.

Perhaps this is how Pumyra will be introduced.

cmangund 01-14-2012 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30557)
Perhaps this is how Pumyra will be introduced.

good idea. And bethored to Tygra, like L08e16o said:D
Then we will see many entanglements, Ships getting complicated:D
Mumm-RA included.:D

stormbringer 01-14-2012 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30558)
good idea. And bethored to Tygra, like L08e16o said:D
Then we will see many entanglements, Ships getting complicated:D
Mumm-RA included.:D

Let the soap opera begin!:D

cmangund 01-14-2012 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30557)
Perhaps this is how Pumyra will be introduced.

Maybe Pumyra will be one of the guardian of the stone like you mentioned way back. Mumm-ra will get control pf Pumra to get the stone for him, Tcats interfere, Tygra safes Pumyra, the Tygra/Pumyra ship begin.:D

cmangund 01-14-2012 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30559)
Let the soap opera begin!:D

Without the pills.:D

Lion-O: Poor Mumm-RA, you are no go without the pills eh?:D

stormbringer 01-14-2012 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30558)
good idea. And bethored to Tygra, like L08e16o said:D
Then we will see many entanglements, Ships getting complicated:D
Mumm-RA included.:D

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30561)
Without the pills.:D

Lion-O: Poor Mumm-RA, you are no go without the pills eh?:D

That's why he has the ancient spirits of evil to transform him.:p

cmangund 01-14-2012 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30562)
That's why he has the ancient spirits of evil to transform him.:p

After Lion-O ridiculed Mumm-RA, he transforms into the all powerfull Mumm-Ra, See my "sword" now Lion-O , yours just like insects'. MUAHAHAHAAHAH

stormbringer 01-14-2012 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30563)
After Lion-O ridiculed Mumm-RA, he transforms into the all powerfull Mumm-Ra, See my "sword" now Lion-O , yours just like insects'. MUAHAHAHAAHAH

Behold! The power of the sword of Plundarr!

cmangund 01-14-2012 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30564)
Behold! The power of the sword of Plundarr!

Lion-O::eek:. Cheetara, some help here.:D

L08e16o 01-14-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 30547)
Exactly. Sasuke might as well be asexual. He's never shown interest in anything but revenge.

There is always Karen.

Naruto/Sasuke is probably the most popular.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 04:03 PM

Words of wisdom.

If you are moving into a house with someone, make sure they don't have a lot of stuff.

I am dead.

I having been moving since 8 in the morning yesterday.

Mercy!!!!

L08e16o 01-14-2012 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30553)
L/C angle could continue on not just Ep14 could be 3 parter. But slim chance it will be T/C angle again, unless WB went nuts. The turnover could go slow, medium or fast or equal grounds until the end of season2.

I think it all depends on what the writers make lion-o do.

Will he go solo, that makes the most sense. I don't see him laying down like a dog. I think the next 3 will deal with L/C.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30554)
Exactly.

If anet has another one of his predictions again involving Lion-O in particular I am sure Cheetara will act on it.

Can you imagine if Annet's say lion-o will meet great doom. She goes and tries to help and he ends up saving her at the cost of his life.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30555)
I've been wondering, if Cheetara is linked to the warstone, could Mummra find someone linked to the other stones and get them to serve him?

Good idea.

I think she is at least connected to the spell that protects it.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30556)
It's possible I think. Maybe Mumm-Ra will use that method you mention to get the other stones and new allies, since direct approach always no go. Thus new alliances.

He could convice the good cats that they are evil and have them take the sword or break and take the war stone.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30558)
good idea. And bethored to Tygra, like L08e16o said:D
Then we will see many entanglements, Ships getting complicated:D
Mumm-RA included.:D

I would like that.

All my favorite ships would happen.:)

stormbringer 01-14-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30613)
Good idea.

I think she is at least connected to the spell that protects it.

I think I'd also have Pumyra as a guardian to a stone, which powers a floating hi tech city of thundrians who disagreed with the abandonment of tech in thundera.

cmangund 01-14-2012 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30617)
I think I'd also have Pumyra as a guardian to a stone, which powers a floating hi tech city of thundrians who disagreed with the abandonment of tech in thundera.

Good idea.:cool: That will also make Pumyra's character have layers to build on and conflicted views about tech with her clan's views, thus more layered stories and drama, can be built upon

cmangund 01-14-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30610)
Words of wisdom.

If you are moving into a house with someone, make sure they don't have a lot of stuff.

I am dead.

I having been moving since 8 in the morning yesterday.

Mercy!!!!

Copy that!:cool:

Finished moving yet?

cmangund 01-14-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30614)
He could convice the good cats that they are evil and have them take the sword or break and take the war stone.

Yeah something like that might happen.

cmangund 01-14-2012 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30611)
I think it all depends on what the writers make lion-o do.

Will he go solo, that makes the most sense. I don't see him laying down like a dog. I think the next 3 will deal with L/C.

He will act on it and not lying down like a dog. The guy has man up(his manly skills and "sword" just level up from Ep13:D).

cmangund 01-14-2012 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30612)
Can you imagine if Annet's say lion-o will meet great doom. She goes and tries to help and he ends up saving her at the cost of his life.

The Lion-O/Cheetara ship will just get hotter:D

cmangund 01-14-2012 05:45 PM

One of the things Jelenic Mentioned:

Dr: T.: I recall that the original show liked to present moral lessons along with the stories. I see that you've kept that aspect in the reboot, especially in that episode "Song of the Pedlars".

MJ: That was actually one of Sam Register's notes early on: that we retain that from the original series because was such a big part of it. They had a staff psychologist that helped dictate what these lessons were, and that might be one reason why Thundercats resonated so much with that generation. They look at these Thundercats almost like they're teachers. For a modern audience, we wanted to make sure that that Lion-O was learning a character lesson that helped his hero journey from prince to king. Half of the episodes – maybe more –focus on a lesson very easily identified by our age 6-11 audience that would be the payoff for the episode in terms of what Lion-O learned.



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Cheetara looked so bad already at this point like a Ho, especially in kids eyes eventhoug kids may not really relize what is a Ho. If she will not make things good with Lion-O or making her stay with Tygra without any care towards Lion-O's feelings (the worst of worst case scenario like that I did, will make the triangle a bit too heavy for kids in my oppinion, as all three of them we will be seeing alot), considering all the things she did with Lion-O were still fresh in Lion-O and her minds, That will make her character worst especially in kids eyes. Its like "okay forget Lion-O, now I am with Tygra". Kids see Lion-O/Cheetara more as a romantic couple than Tygra/Cheetara, with all that build up with Lion-O/Cheetara thing.

One of the reasons they have this Tygra/cheetara thing at the end was to show kids that you must not forget someone that already had a good deed to you from the past, before moving on, thus the thank you kiss. One of the lessons for kids. Thus the next lesson will be the moving on with Lion-O part, and making things good with Lion-O too.


They wanted to suprise us with Ep13 ending aside from the lesson for kids thing, so they will not do T/C angle again next that will be too predictable as cleary they wanted to be unpredictable with the story, as they also changed the title of Ep14 from "lost causes" to "NEw Alliances". The Cheetara has chosen Tygra comment, I am sure there's alot more whether its a dialogue twist, She has chosen twice, the truth of her choices, etc to it as with all the analysis, facts,data and discussions.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30620)
Copy that!:cool:

Finished moving yet?

Almost, we still have her clothes, bags, and shoes.

Bulk of the stuff is done.

Thanks for asking.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30617)
I think I'd also have Pumyra as a guardian to a stone, which powers a floating hi tech city of thundrians who disagreed with the abandonment of tech in thundera.

Great idea.

I wonder why thunderia gave up on tech?

cmangund 01-14-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30628)
Almost, we still have her clothes, bags, and shoes.

Bulk of the stuff is done.

Thanks for asking.

What you said was indeed a word of wisdom, all in the name of love.:cool:

L08e16o 01-14-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30623)
He will act on it and not lying down like a dog. The guy has man up(his manly skills and "sword" just level up from Ep13:D).

Like people say, lion-o never earn or fought for anything, I think this is the new layer for his character. If he didn't care he would've looked suprised than left.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30630)
What you said was indeed a word of wisdom, all in the name of love.:cool:

Got to obey the boss.:D

cmangund 01-14-2012 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30634)
Got to obey the boss.:D

:D

cmangund 01-14-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30633)
Like people say, lion-o never earn or fought for anything, I think this is the new layer for his character. If he didn't care he would've looked suprised than left.

And what's better then the first actual fight in your life other then for love:D

Balgus82 01-14-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30627)
Cheetara looked so bad already at this point like a Ho, especially in kids eyes eventhoug kids may not really relize what is a Ho. If she will not make things good with Lion-O or making her stay with Tygra without any care towards Lion-O's feelings (the worst of worst case scenario like that I did, will make the triangle a bit too heavy for kids in my oppinion, as all three of them we will be seeing alot), considering all the things she did with Lion-O were still fresh in Lion-O and her minds, That will make her character worst especially in kids eyes. Its like "okay forget Lion-O, now I am with Tygra". Kids see Lion-O/Cheetara more as a romantic couple than Tygra/Cheetara, with all that build up with Lion-O/Cheetara thing.

One of the reasons they have this Tygra/cheetara thing at the end was to show kids that you must not forget someone that already had a good deed to you from the past, before moving on, thus the thank you kiss. One of the lessons for kids. Thus the next lesson will be the moving on with Lion-O part, and making things good with Lion-O too.


They wanted to suprise us with Ep13 ending aside from the lesson for kids thing, so they will not do T/C angle again next that will be too predictable as cleary they wanted to be unpredictable with the story, as they also changed the title of Ep14 from "lost causes" to "NEw Alliances". The Cheetara has chosen Tygra comment, I am sure there's alot more whether its a dialogue twist, She has chosen twice, the truth of her choices, etc to it as with all the analysis, facts,data and discussions.


I really don't think many 6-11 boys (which is the main target audience) will really care one way or the other about ships. They watch for the action. I also don't think they'll read into those scenes as much as an adult might.

IMO I think the love triangle was placed in there mostly for the fans of the OS who always wondered why Cheetara never hooked up with anyone.

stormbringer 01-14-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30629)
Great idea.

I wonder why thunderia gave up on tech?

Perhaps there was a desire to start off fresh, like the colonists did at the end of Battlestar Galactica. Never did like that ending.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30639)
Perhaps there was a desire to start off fresh, like the colonists did at the end of Battlestar Galactica. Never did like that ending.

I never got over starbuck being a woman.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30624)
The Lion-O/Cheetara ship will just get hotter:D

It would.

stormbringer 01-14-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30640)
I never got over starbuck being a women.

I've heard there's going to be a new BSG movie,that'll be more like the original series.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30627)
Cheetara looked so bad already at this point like a Ho, especially in kids eyes eventhoug kids may not really relize what is a Ho. If she will not make things good with Lion-O or making her stay with Tygra without any care towards Lion-O's feelings (the worst of worst case scenario like that I did, will make the triangle a bit too heavy for kids in my oppinion, as all three of them we will be seeing alot), considering all the things she did with Lion-O were still fresh in Lion-O and her minds, That will make her character worst especially in kids eyes. Its like "okay forget Lion-O, now I am with Tygra". Kids see Lion-O/Cheetara more as a romantic couple than Tygra/Cheetara, with all that build up with Lion-O/Cheetara thing.

One of the reasons they have this Tygra/cheetara thing at the end was to show kids that you must not forget someone that already had a good deed to you from the past, before moving on, thus the thank you kiss. One of the lessons for kids. Thus the next lesson will be the moving on with Lion-O part, and making things good with Lion-O too.


They wanted to suprise us with Ep13 ending aside from the lesson for kids thing, so they will not do T/C angle again next that will be too predictable as cleary they wanted to be unpredictable with the story, as they also changed the title of Ep14 from "lost causes" to "NEw Alliances". The Cheetara has chosen Tygra comment, I am sure there's alot more whether its a dialogue twist, She has chosen twice, the truth of her choices, etc to it as with all the analysis, facts,data and discussions.

Agree.

She know he likes her. How she reacted when kit was teasing them about kissing. She didn't say anything, so she was fine with it. In E12, she kissed his cheek. He look back as in you chose me, she didn't say anything.

If she was going to tell lion-o that she didn't care for his feelings, she would have set him straigth along time ago. She is not a player, she will go for the highest good.

If she doesn't tell lion-o then it makes her dishonest.

The dialogue was very vague. We know she chose him, but the kiss was a thank you. The writers made sure that the kids knew it was for a thank you. Oh I haven't thanked you. The did that on purpose.

She didn't make her feelings clear, she has the whole show. Everyone saw it.

Lost causes. I like that title better.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30642)
I've heard there's going to be a new BSG movie,that'll be more like the original series.

I didn't know that.

Starbuck was my favorite and he was a player.

cmangund 01-14-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30644)
Agree.

She know he likes her. How she reacted when kit was teasing them about kissing. She didn't say anything, so she was fine with it. In E12, she kissed his cheek. He look back as in you chose me, she didn't say anything.

If she was going to tell lion-o that she didn't care for his feelings, she would have set him straigth along time ago. She is not a player, she will go for the highest good.

If she doesn't tell lion-o then it makes her dishonest.

The dialogue was very vague. We know she chose him, but the kiss was a thank you. The writers made sure that the kids knew it was for a thank you. Oh I haven't thanked you. The did that on purpose.

She didn't make her feelings clear, she has the whole show. Everyone saw it.

Lost causes. I like that title better.

One of the things Jelenic Mentioned:

Dr: T.: I recall that the original show liked to present moral lessons along with the stories. I see that you've kept that aspect in the reboot, especially in that episode "Song of the Pedlars".

MJ: That was actually one of Sam Register's notes early on: that we retain that from the original series because was such a big part of it. They had a staff psychologist that helped dictate what these lessons were, and that might be one reason why Thundercats resonated so much with that generation. They look at these Thundercats almost like they're teachers. For a modern audience, we wanted to make sure that that Lion-O was learning a character lesson that helped his hero journey from prince to king. Half of the episodes – maybe more –focus on a lesson very easily identified by our age 6-11 audience that would be the payoff for the episode in terms of what Lion-O learned.

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Naturally Cheetara's moral compass ain't looking to good in kids eyes, so they have to make it good next episodes.

"Lost Causes" too much of a spoiler unfortunately:D

L08e16o 01-14-2012 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30646)
One of the things Jelenic Mentioned:

Dr: T.: I recall that the original show liked to present moral lessons along with the stories. I see that you've kept that aspect in the reboot, especially in that episode "Song of the Pedlars".

MJ: That was actually one of Sam Register's notes early on: that we retain that from the original series because was such a big part of it. They had a staff psychologist that helped dictate what these lessons were, and that might be one reason why Thundercats resonated so much with that generation. They look at these Thundercats almost like they're teachers. For a modern audience, we wanted to make sure that that Lion-O was learning a character lesson that helped his hero journey from prince to king. Half of the episodes – maybe more –focus on a lesson very easily identified by our age 6-11 audience that would be the payoff for the episode in terms of what Lion-O learned.

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Naturally Cheetara's moral compass ain't looking to good in kids eyes, so they have to make it good next episodes.

"Lost Causes" too much of a spoiler unfortunately:D

Wow, that says a lot.

There is more to it than that. There is no way they will make cheetara look bad.

Thanks.

Big Snarf 01-14-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30612)
Can you imagine if Annet's say lion-o will meet great doom. She goes and tries to help and he ends up saving her at the cost of his life.

That won't happen lion-o most likely won't die at any point in the show. What annet can say is "tygra tomorrow you will be betrayed" and the next day when he asks everyone if they've seen cheetara and they say no then turns the corner and sees cheetara kissing snarf :eek:. Now we know the reason the actions of snarf in ep 4:D

cmangund 01-14-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30651)
That won't happen lion-o most likely won't die at any point in the show. What annet can say is "tygra tomorrow you will be betrayed" and the next day when he asks everyone if they've seen cheetara and they say no then turns the corner and sees cheetara kissing snarf :eek:. Now we know the reason the actions of snarf in ep 4:D

Darn the truth was Cheetara/Snarf all along! the little weasel:D snarf is indeed the true masters of evil:D


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