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cmangund 01-07-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 29014)
I sum up the CN seasons like this from what I saw with the theme.

1-13 second best
14-26 love triangle

Ep1-13 Yes Second Best plus "Starting" Love Triangle.

No, Ep14-16 Evolved "Ending" Love Triangle tipping to Lion-O/Cheetara with soft proper due on L/C Ep14 and the hard proper due on Ep26. Or they can do a direct 180 with the SoO/Chetara/Lion-O connection.

cmangund 01-07-2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 29012)
They won't. At the expense of drama. To me if they wanted the T/C, I think they would have built it from the begining.


All the guys and girls would fight over who would be lion-o and cheetara. Kids always made them a couple.

They add T/C "suddenly" to the mix to add layers, pain, conflict, suffering, drama to the story. Lion-O/Cheetara keep on developing even in Ep13, despite the Ep13 ending, its fact. Just like the "sudden appearance" of Steve Trevor out of the blue.

cmangund 01-07-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28982)
They were sold on L/C from 1-12, know they feel betrayed.

Totally, the worst kind of betrayal from the crew to us Lion-O/Cheetara fans!

stormbringer 01-07-2012 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29021)
Yup that "evil laugh" is a clear indication that they are playing with us viewers, especially with the triangle. Death is a far more permanent unchangable thing rather than relationship, if even that more pemanent thing is not certain then relationship can easily be played around.

The review came from someone that has experience reviewing shows, so its a more "profesional view" of the show.

I knew they were getting a twisted pleasure from our suffering!:p

cmangund 01-07-2012 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28980)
In the end most people want the hero to get the girl.

Yup, "We wanted to potray a classic "hero's journey".." One of many main clues:D

cmangund 01-07-2012 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 29028)
I knew they were getting a twisted pleasure from our suffering!:p

Darn villains! As the protectors of the crown, The crew will feel the musketeers wrath raining down on them, CHARGE!:D

cmangund 01-07-2012 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28987)
It is dumb.

In anime the triangle starts withe the main m/F, but the other person comes in around E3. They go back and forth giving equal time to each couple until in is resolve.

They didn't do that here.

This dumb triangle can work to our advantage! They can do another 180 directly next episode. :D OR of course the Evolved Triangle where Cheetara will get stuck, cannot choosing either brothers after she knows Lion-O feelings and that she's hurting him bad,then the Lion-O/Cheetara thing developing Until EP26 she will go to Lion-O as Tygra will be more okay by then:D

stormbringer 01-07-2012 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29021)
Yup that "evil laugh" is a clear indication that they are playing with us viewers, especially with the triangle. Death is a far more permanent unchangable thing rather than relationship, if even that more pemanent thing is not certain then relationship can easily be played around.

The review came from someone that has experience reviewing shows, so its a more "profesional view" of the show.

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29032)
This dumb triangle can work to our advantage! They can do another 180 directly next episode. :D OR of course the Evolved Triangle where Cheetara will get stuck, cannot choosing either brothers after she knows Lion-O feelings and that she's hurting him bad,then the Lion-O/Cheetara thing developing Until EP26 she will go to Lion-O as Tygra will be more okay by then:D

I just hope the writers have put as much thought into this as you have!:D

cmangund 01-07-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 29038)
I just hope the writers have put as much thought into this as you have!:D

Thanks.:) If the writers are going crazy, then of course there is always a "more direct approach" where it will end badly for the crew.:D

L08e16o 01-07-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 29020)
I admitted when I relayed that quote that it could mean that Cheetara would change her mind down the road. I've never denied that. Though unlike some people I would rather it be gradual instead of happening in the next 3 or 4 episodes because that would just make Cheetara look even worse.

TCL review is just that. a review. it's personal opinion.


Can't comment on Bioware because I've never played their games.

You are missing out.

DA and Elder scroll 5.

I think we won't get the final until E26.

L08e16o 01-07-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 29018)
Well idk who said that, but I'm going with what Dan said. and he works for WB, not CN.

That is fine.

Can you ask Dan (Sorry to ask) if Annet's prediction influence to go to tygra and choose him?

Thanks.

L08e16o 01-07-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29021)
Yup that "evil laugh" is a clear indication that they are playing with us viewers, especially with the triangle. Death is a far more permanent unchangable thing rather than relationship, if even that more pemanent thing is not certain then relationship can easily be played around.

The review came from someone that has experience reviewing shows, so its a more "profesional view" of the show.

See that is wrong.

Thanks.

I wonder what panthero will think when he see Grune.

L08e16o 01-07-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29023)
Ep1-13 Yes Second Best plus "Starting" Love Triangle.

No, Ep14-16 Evolved "Ending" Love Triangle tipping to Lion-O/Cheetara with soft proper due on L/C Ep14 and the hard proper due on Ep26. Or they can do a direct 180 with the SoO/Chetara/Lion-O connection.

I agree.

I would like to know why cheetara wait to go to tygra, I still belive is has to do with the prediction.

I am so hoping they see him when the bells ring, that would add a lot of drama.

cmangund 01-07-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 29043)
I wonder what panthero will think when he see Grune.

Panthro will definitely beat the crap out of Grune with his brand new arms and nunchucks:D

L08e16o 01-07-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29025)
They add T/C "suddenly" to the mix to add layers, pain, conflict, suffering, drama to the story. Lion-O/Cheetara keep on developing even in Ep13, despite the Ep13 ending, its fact. Just like the "sudden appearance" of Steve Trevor out of the blue.

Agreed. If they wanted it they would have started it earlier.

I think this will make lion-o tell him true feelings instead of being a little boy about it.

L08e16o 01-07-2012 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29045)
Panthro will definitely beat the crap out of Grune with his brand new arms and nunchucks:D

Grune might come back as a cyborg.

L08e16o 01-07-2012 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29027)
Totally, the worst kind of betrayal from the crew to us Lion-O/Cheetara fans!

Agreed. I was like WTF.:confused:

stormbringer 01-07-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 29043)
See that is wrong.

Thanks.

I wonder what panthero will think when he see Grune.

If Grunes a ghost, Panthro will probably be freaked out. Though being the resident "tough guy" he'll do his best not to show it.

cmangund 01-07-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 29044)
I agree.

I would like to know why cheetara wait to go to tygra, I still belive is has to do with the prediction.

I am so hoping they see him when the bells ring, that would add a lot of drama.

The prophecy as one of the reasons for cheetara is still inline with Dan's comments.

They could also make it like that.

cmangund 01-07-2012 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 29047)
Grune might come back as a cyborg.

Cyborg VS Cyborg:cool:

L08e16o 01-07-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29032)
This dumb triangle can work to our advantage! They can do another 180 directly next episode. :D OR of course the Evolved Triangle where Cheetara will get stuck, cannot choosing either brothers after she knows Lion-O feelings and that she's hurting him bad,then the Lion-O/Cheetara thing developing Until EP26 she will go to Lion-O as Tygra will be more okay by then:D

I think tygra would be ok with it, he is more mature.

Lion-o on the other hand to me would be more rash.

I am waiting for cheetara's angle. Then lion-o's.

cmangund 01-07-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 29049)
If Grunes a ghost, Panthro will probably be freaked out. Though being the resident "tough guy" he'll do his best not to show it.

There's a good chance Grune will be upgraded as well as L08e16o said.

L08e16o 01-07-2012 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 29049)
If Grunes a ghost, Panthro will probably be freaked out. Though being the resident "tough guy" he'll do his best not to show it.

He will need a berbils doll to sleep at night from the Grune.:D

L08e16o 01-07-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29050)
The prophecy as one of the reasons for cheetara is still inline with Dan's comments.

They could also make it like that.

I agree. He didn't elebrate on his answer, I know spoiler.

I still believe legacy is a foreshadow of things to come.

cmangund 01-07-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 29052)
I think tygra would be ok with it, he is more mature.

Lion-o on the other hand to me would be more rash.

I am waiting for cheetara's angle. Then lion-o's.

Technically yes. We can also assume Tygra has more experience with female cats. So it will not that difficult for Tygra (especially the 8 frickin years):D

stormbringer 01-07-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 29054)
He will need a berbils doll to sleep at night from the Grune.:D

:D:D:D

L08e16o 01-07-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29056)
Technically yes. We can also assume Tygra has more experience with female cats. So it will not that difficult for Tygra (especially the 8 frickin years):D

Agreed.

I think tygra will feel really bad, he said he would never betray him. I know that it is not betray, but he has really hurt him.

stormbringer 01-07-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 29054)
He will need a berbils doll to sleep at night from the Grune.:D

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29053)
There's a good chance Grune will be upgraded as well as L08e16o said.

I wonder how much of Grune will get "upgraded" ?

cmangund 01-07-2012 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 29055)
I agree. He didn't elebrate on his answer, I know spoiler.

I still believe legacy is a foreshadow of things to come.

In Season 1 Lion-O already has been given a lip kiss, that's one of the reason cheetara did not give Lion-O a lip kiss. Season 2 will be a different story, the brothers are equal know with lip kisses 1 VS 1(L VS T) and with Lion-O winning on the cheek kisses.:D

stormbringer 01-07-2012 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29056)
Technically yes. We can also assume Tygra has more experience with female cats. So it will not that difficult for Tygra (especially the 8 frickin years):D

Yeah somehow I doubt Tygra remained soley devoted to someone he hadn't seen in 8 years.

L08e16o 01-07-2012 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29032)
This dumb triangle can work to our advantage! They can do another 180 directly next episode. :D OR of course the Evolved Triangle where Cheetara will get stuck, cannot choosing either brothers after she knows Lion-O feelings and that she's hurting him bad,then the Lion-O/Cheetara thing developing Until EP26 she will go to Lion-O as Tygra will be more okay by then:D

You're correct again. They like 180s and they like to PO us off.

I think it will evolve and in 26 we get a real kiss.

That is going to be really hard for cheetara. I wonder if she made it worse thinking she could stop tygra.

cmangund 01-07-2012 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 29061)
Yeah somehow I doubt Tygra remained soley devoted to someone he hadn't seen in 8 years.

A not very difficult deduction indeed. Good one stormbringer:cool:

cmangund 01-07-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 29061)
Yeah somehow I doubt Tygra remained soley devoted to someone he hadn't seen in 8 years.

It turns out during the 8 frickin years Tygra had a relationship with Pumyra! Cheetara knows this will slap Tygra or even hit Tygra with the Pole then go straight to Lion-O and give Lion-O a making out kiss in front of Tygra:D

stormbringer 01-07-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29056)
Technically yes. We can also assume Tygra has more experience with female cats. So it will not that difficult for Tygra (especially the 8 frickin years):D

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 29062)
You're correct again. They like 180s and they like to PO us off.

I think it will evolve and in 26 we get a real kiss.

That is going to be really hard for cheetara. I wonder if she made it worse thinking she could stop tygra.

I have yet to see any good come out of the ending to that last episode.

cmangund 01-07-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 29059)
I wonder how much of Grune will get "upgraded" ?

That's a tough one. No clues at all. Unless there's a new Grune Toyline.

cmangund 01-07-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 29065)
I have yet to see any good come out of the ending to that last episode.

You can get one good thing, Lion-O really relizes his feelings for Cheetara. Thus Jelenic comment on the lion-O/Cheetara thing we get more with each episode.

L08e16o 01-07-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 29061)
Yeah somehow I doubt Tygra remained soley devoted to someone he hadn't seen in 8 years.

I agree, I had a crush on someone for 3 years when I was kid. I finally realize I didn't like her. I was kid, so I was dumb. :D

L08e16o 01-07-2012 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29064)
It turns out during the 8 frickin years Tygra had a relationship with Pumyra! Cheetara knows this will slap Tygra or even hit Tygra with the Pole then go straight to Lion-O and give Lion-O a making out kiss in front of Tygra:D

That would be great, but she would even feel more bad.

stormbringer 01-07-2012 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29064)
It turns out during the 8 frickin years Tygra had a relationship with Pumyra! Cheetara knows this will slap Tygra or even hit Tygra with the Pole then go straight to Lion-O and give Lion-O a making out kiss in front of Tygra:D

And Tygra will say to Cheetara "don't hate the player hate the game"!

L08e16o 01-07-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29066)
That's a tough one. No clues at all. Unless there's a new Grune Toyline.

You know he is coming back.

He has a lot of fans.

L08e16o 01-07-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 29070)
And Tygra will say to Cheetara "don't hate the player hate the game"!

Word!:D

Hate the game baby.:D

cmangund 01-07-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 29069)
That would be great, but she would even feel more bad.

Nah its OOC for cheetara if she slap Tygra. She will not slap Tygra, but she will go to Lion-O as she can express her feelings freely to Lion-O now without worrying about Tygra.

stormbringer 01-07-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29073)
Nah its OOC for cheetara if she slap Tygra. She will not slap Tygra, but she will go to Lion-O.

Maybe the NS Pumyra will be more "don't f with me".

cmangund 01-07-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 29071)
You know he is coming back.

He has a lot of fans.

Definitely, Grune is coming back.

cmangund 01-07-2012 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 29075)
Maybe the NS Pumyra will be more "don't f with me".

Yeah Maybe Pumyra will be the one that slaps Tygra! Tygra will loose both female cats! since Cheetara is with Lion-O now, he will go to Pumyra to fix things. mostly Tygra's damaged "gun":D

stormbringer 01-07-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29073)
Nah its OOC for cheetara if she slap Tygra. She will not slap Tygra, but she will go to Lion-O as she can express her feelings freely to Lion-O now without worrying about Tygra.

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29078)
Yeah Maybe Pumyra will be the one that slaps Tygra! Tygra will loose both female cats! since Cheetara is with Lion-O now, he will go to Pumyra to fix things. mostly Tygra's damaged "gun":D

Then Tygra will catch her with Bengali and a new triangle is born BWAHAHAHA!

cmangund 01-07-2012 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 29080)
Then Tygra will catch her with Bengali and a new triangle is born BWAHAHAHA!

EXACTLY!!!! JL style ships!:D It will be very hard for the crew to resist doing something like that.

cmangund 01-07-2012 06:40 PM

If Pumyra will be attracted to Lion-O, Cheetara will get jealous regardless T/C running or not, this will also help the evolved triangle develpoment of Lion-O/Cheetara thing.

Big Snarf 01-07-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 29045)
Panthro will definitely beat the crap out of Grune with his brand new arms and nunchucks:D

He couldn't even beat regular grune

cmangund 01-07-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 29087)
He couldn't even beat regular grune

Well maybe with the new arms and nunchucks he can!


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