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L08e16o 01-06-2012 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 28767)
I think there will be explanations in episode 14 cause Lion-O is sure to be extremely confused.

I don't know why people keep saying the writers won't make Cheetara stir "up the pot" though. If she stirs up the pot it brings more conflict into the show. they need conflict else it'll just get boring.

They said but heads less.

L08e16o 01-06-2012 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28775)
The highest good thing. and the JL pattern, the theories, the interviews all fits.
Of course it can also be another long story arch that will lead to the Lion-O/Cheetara making out kiss at Ep 26 like Bats/wondy. Point is may anlaysis of Cheetara's character with my writer friends was right, so we managed to get her right thus there's very high chance the evolved triangle scenario will come true or like Ep 14.

If they can pull stuff out of thin air, then they can do anything.

DarkKnight 01-06-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28773)
Ep13 was indeed a thorn in the history of this new Tcats. Look at the bright sight some of our discussions and theories have even more higher chance of coming to light!:)

yes, theres a saying; No matter how much darkness there is, light can break through it, especially if its the light of hope.

Balgus82 01-06-2012 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28774)
My whole problem is Annet's prediction. They screwed that up and why make the whole dialogue so vague.

the prediction itself used vague wording.

"you will know a betrayal" and "Lion-O will feel betrayed."

cmangund 01-06-2012 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28774)
My whole problem is Annet's prediction. They screwed that up and why make the whole dialogue so vague.

The vague dialogue will allow the Cheetara/SoO/Lion-O connections to come true. Or the real truth that she has chosen Lion-O.

L08e16o 01-06-2012 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 28780)
the prediction itself used vague wording.

"you will know a betrayal" and "Lion-O will feel betrayed."

The way they wrote it is cheetara betrayed lion-o, not tygra.

Either cheetara was playing lion-o the whole time or not.

stormbringer 01-06-2012 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28782)
The way they wrote it is cheetara betrayed lion-o, not tygra.

I noticed that too. Tygra didn't do anything, Cheetara did.

DarkKnight 01-06-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28783)
I noticed that too. Tygra didn't do anything, Cheetara did.

unfortunately ,yes.

L08e16o 01-06-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28781)
The vague dialogue will allow the Cheetara/SoO/Lion-O connections to come true. Or the real truth that she has chosen Lion-O.

Knowing our luck they will be lazy and not write anything at all.

DarkKnight 01-06-2012 06:24 PM

when cheetara finds out she's gonna feel like shit.

L08e16o 01-06-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28783)
I noticed that too. Tygra didn't do anything, Cheetara did.

The writers really screwed up.

13 episodes and they have sloppy work.

Balgus82 01-06-2012 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28782)
The way they wrote it is cheetara betrayed lion-o, not tygra.

Either cheetara was playing lion-o the whole or not.

What Anet said in Between Brothers is "Lion-O will feel betrayed." All that matters in with that wording is how Lion-O views it. Lion-O would see the kiss and immediately blame Tygra, not Cheetara.

DarkKnight 01-06-2012 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28787)
The writers really screwed up.

13 episodes and they have sloppy work.

and ironically people like it.

cmangund 01-06-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28777)
If they can pull stuff out of thin air, then they can do anything.

which is why they could also do another complete 180 for Cheetara easily too. In any case if they pull another x-factors the basic anlysis of evolved Triangle is in placed now, so the x-factors cannot eliminate that.

cmangund 01-06-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28789)
and ironically people like it.

Nah, so many complaints on the 180 shifts.

DarkKnight 01-06-2012 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28791)
Nah, so many complaints on the 180 shifts.

i meant T/C fans. 180 shifts are our people.

L08e16o 01-06-2012 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 28788)
What Anet said in Between Brothers is "Lion-O will feel betrayed." All that matters in with that wording is how Lion-O views it. Lion-O would see the kiss and immediately blame Tygra, not Cheetara.

No, he said feel betrayed by tygra.

No he wouldn't any guy will blame the women first. Unless the writers don't understand that.

stormbringer 01-06-2012 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28789)
and ironically people like it.

Amazing isn't it?

L08e16o 01-06-2012 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28791)
Nah, so many complaints on the 180 shifts.

If they don't explain it, I am done.

I would have rather know from the begining if it was going to be T/C. I would have watched it a little and moved on.

DarkKnight 01-06-2012 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28795)
Amazing isn't it?

yeah

DarkKnight 01-06-2012 06:31 PM

right now Im listening to a song thats so nice Im humming along to it. why...................... reminds me of lion-o/ cheetara sometimes.

L08e16o 01-06-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28786)
when cheetara finds out she's gonna feel like shit.

Yes, normally people would. But if the writers can do T/C that fast, they you never know.

stormbringer 01-06-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28789)
and ironically people like it.

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28796)
If they don't explain it, I am done.

I would have rather know from the begining if it was going to be T/C. I would have watched it a little and moved on.

The way the writers wrote it , it came across as a last minute script change, rather than a long term idea.

DarkKnight 01-06-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28800)
Yes, normally people would. But if the writers can do T/C that fast, they you never know.

or do we?

cmangund 01-06-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28796)
If they don't explain it, I am done.

I would have rather know from the begining if it was going to be T/C. I would have watched it a little and moved on.

Because it's not going to be T/C, remember the bigger picture. its either Lion-O/Cheetara or the worst case both Lion-O/Cheetara and Cheetara/Tygra or the evolved Lion-O/Cheetara/Tygra as in JL.

L08e16o 01-06-2012 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28801)
The way the writers wrote it , it came across as a last minute script change, rather than a long term idea.

Agree.

cmangund 01-06-2012 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28801)
The way the writers wrote it , it came across as a last minute script change, rather than a long term idea.

Yeah its a fact Ep13 was bad. But at least we can "guess" where they are going more easily now.

DarkKnight 01-06-2012 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28803)
Because it's not going to be T/C, remember the bigger picture. its either Lion-O/Cheetara or the worst case both Lion-O/Cheetara and Cheetara/Tygra or the evolved Lion-O/Cheetara/Tygra as in JL.

im gonna be pissed if they do that. My face will be like my avatar

DarkKnight 01-06-2012 06:37 PM

i felt betrayed when they did ep13

L08e16o 01-06-2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28803)
Because it's not going to be T/C, remember the bigger picture. its either Lion-O/Cheetara or the worst case both Lion-O/Cheetara and Cheetara/Tygra or the evolved Lion-O/Cheetara/Tygra as in JL.

I know, but I have doubt in the writers.

How can you choose someone along time ago and flirt with someone else. 8 years to do something and she didn't.

I just think this makes cheetara look bad. The VA made her sound like she aims for the best outcome.

L08e16o 01-06-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28805)
Yeah its a fact Ep13 was bad. But at least we can "guess" where they are going more easily now.

I am lost where they are going.

How does this make thunderdads happy.

My dad is already done with this. He hates tygra and he didn't like how they did lion-o.

cmangund 01-06-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28808)
I know, but I have doubt in the writers.

How can you choose someone along time ago and flirt with someone else. 8 years to do something and she didn't.

I just think this makes cheetara look bad. The VA made her sound like she aims for the best outcome.

Because it was the best outcome if you analyze it thoroughly http://www.thundercats.ws/thundercat.../24/#post24715

Big Snarf 01-06-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28801)
The way the writers wrote it , it came across as a last minute script change, rather than a long term idea.

It sure does. If they keep doing that and keep having theses delays i don't see the show lasting the 52ep, it has gone down hill since ep8. In ep 13 when panthro jumped out hte tank to fight grune i was waiting to hear something like the OS panthro theme " the one that plays before he is about to rough some one up" but it didn't happen:( that might have been the most epic thing to happen on the show

cmangund 01-06-2012 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28809)
I am lost where they are going.

How does this make thunderdads happy.

My dad is already done with this. He hates tygra and he didn't like how they did lion-o.

On the contrary, this just narrows it down. Don't think about who she chooses but think of the entire characters in the Triangle. Because that's the way writers think

DarkKnight 01-06-2012 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28808)
I know, but I have doubt in the writers.

How can you choose someone along time ago and flirt with someone else. 8 years to do something and she didn't.

I just think this makes cheetara look bad. The VA made her sound like she aims for the best outcome.

lets just hope for the best. remember this?: No matter how much darkness there is, light can break through it, especially if its the light of hope.;) :)

DarkKnight 01-06-2012 06:42 PM

there's one plus side for this.................. to me at least.

cmangund 01-06-2012 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28793)
i meant T/C fans. 180 shifts are our people.

even the T/C critized the 180 shift.

DarkKnight 01-06-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28816)
even the T/C critized the 180 shift.

cuz they know we're right.

L08e16o 01-06-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28813)
On the contrary, this just narrows it down. Don't think about who she chooses but think of the entire characters in the Triangle. Because that's the way writers think

I wished they would've run all 26 episodes.

I just have no faith in their writing.

All the clues, interviews, and previous episodes contradict what happen in E13.

L08e16o 01-06-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28816)
even the T/C critized the 180 shift.

If it was the other way around, I would be disappointed too.

cmangund 01-06-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28787)
The writers really screwed up.

13 episodes and they have sloppy work.

The good side, the patterns are clearer now they will definetly not waste the Ep1-13 Lion-O/Cheetara thing.

cmangund 01-06-2012 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28818)
I wished they would've run all 26 episodes.

I just have no faith in their writing.

All the clues, interviews, and previous episodes contradict what happen in E13.

It did not. Otherwise it will not hit my analysis. All of it are based on the facts and data and interviews.

stormbringer 01-06-2012 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28818)
I wished they would've run all 26 episodes.

I just have no faith in their writing.

All the clues, interviews, and previous episodes contradict what happen in E13.

It's certainly confusing, as evidenced by our weeks of debates.

L08e16o 01-06-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28821)
It did not. Otherwise it will not hit my analysis. All of it are based on the facts and data and interviews.

Well as of right now, cheetara has done more damage to lion-o than mummra has ever done.

L08e16o 01-06-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28820)
The good side, the patterns are clearer now they will definetly not waste the Ep1-13 Lion-O/Cheetara thing.

At least in JL you knew WW liked BM.

cmangund 01-06-2012 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28822)
It's certainly confusing, as evidenced by our weeks of debates.

Confusing yes, but all of it are in check with most of our analysis and theories.

cmangund 01-06-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28825)
At least in JL you knew WW liked BM.

No we don't exactly know it until the beginning of season 2. and that still a blur until the dance episode.

DarkKnight 01-06-2012 06:55 PM

I know how all've you feel, disappointed, sad, lied to. I do to, but moping around isn't gonna change anything. we gotta pull it together. who's with me. one for all, and all for one.

cmangund 01-06-2012 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28829)
I know how all've you feel, disappointed, sad, lied to. I do to, but moping around isn't gonna change anything. we gotta pull it together. who's with me. one for all, and all for one.

On the contrary I am not sad because everthing is like what we have analyzed. We have got Cheetara's character, Lion-O's character and Tygra's character right in the triangle anlysis and dicussions.

DarkKnight 01-06-2012 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28830)
On the contrary I am not sad because everthing is like what we have analyzed. We have got Cheetara's character, Lion-O's character and Tygra's character right in the triangle anlysis and dicussions.

you know what I meant. :D


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