Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28497)

So I wonder why the secrecy in regards to T/Cs feelings for each other.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28634)

It is because lion-o loves and believes in his brother. He forgot abou the bell.

You are not giving Cheetara enough credit. She heard Annet's prediction, and you could see her face as being upset and to me she was thinking. She timed it right. Her going to tygra was to prevent the betrayal, she just didn't know lion-o was going to be there.

Who is more level headed, lion-o or cheetara? Cheetara is very clever.

Annet would have said lion-o would've felt betrayal by both tygra and cheetara.

Originally Posted by Eclipse (Post 28655)

She could have kept him distracted and chatting about the weather until the bell stroke. She didn't have to kiss him. I don't care about any couple in particular, but I actively dislike the idea of Cheetara being manipulative in such a fashion, knowing in the end that will end up hurting Tygra and most probably rekindling a number of problems that were left beind while the brothers were in the Astral Plane. Not to mention telling Lion-O that she kissed her brother to protect him from a possible betrayal that didn't look like it was happening as Tygra was all alone paying attention to nothing and no one... well...

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28657)

If she kept him distracted, she is not dealing with the problem. It would have made him mad and that to me would be tricking him.

If the order of her dialogue, the kiss was after I owe you a thank you. To let tygra really know that it meant a lot she kissed him. It wasn't like they were making out. If the order was cheetara telling him she will make her feelings clear and kiss him, then we know she chose him. She didn't. She kissed him after she said she owed him a thank you.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28657)

You don't like any other idea that cheetara might not end up with tygra.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28657)

How is she manipulative, I bet you she never goes to tygra if she didn't hear Annet's prediction. You could see her face she was upset and thinking about it.

She didn't know that he was there. She will have to explain it to him. How do you explain all the flirting, you could say she was manipulating lion-o.

Originally Posted by Eclipse (Post 28658)

It's the kiss on the lips I don't agree with in connection to a thank you. I've never thanked a friend that way, nor has any of my friends. It leads him on to crush him later. Doesn't speak well of her. Long hug and kiss on the cheek would have been just right, and if Lion-O was looking at that, he wouldn't have liked it much either.

I've stated different on at least two different ocassions (probably three) right on this board. You may think differently, but you should state it like it is, your thoughts, not the absolute truth.
So again I say, she should end up with neither. The only reason I'm all right with the pairing has to do with the fact that she and Lion-O had no previous understanding beyond what could have been misconstrued encouragement from her part.

I really don't want to explain to my kids that she kissed Tygra like their father and I kiss, but will soon be kissing someone else just like that.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28650)

I would trust other people that have shown good intentions over my own family. Why wouldn't she trust him when his predictions are 100% and he helped lion-o with SBS.

What Cheetara did was smart, she went to the source and dealt with it. If she was in the shadow, she won't prevent the betrayal. Tygra would've betrayed lion-o what would cheetara been able to do? Call him out for it, that will make it worse. Take care of the issue instead of letting it fester.

What did tygra really want from cheetara, he wanted her to recognize what he did years ago. I bet you that was more on his heart than her chosing him. He was already to move on. I think since cheetara thanked him, tygra can move on. The crown is different. Maybe when tygra thinks lion-o is worthy of his respect, things will change.

I don't know how they will handle tygra the rest of the way, but maybe the events in the AP (like you said) and the flower (something else from his past) will help him overcome his jealousy.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 28666)

If Cheetara kissing him was only to make him stop the betrayal what happens when he finds out she didn't really choose him? It wouldn't stop the betrayal it would only delay it.

I fail to see how a thank you from Cheetara would stop him from betraying Lion-O. What happened back then had nothing to do with Lion-O. Lion-O didn't inadvertently stop her from thanking him 8 years ago. He wasn't there at all.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28667)

Why did cheetara wait until the evening bell to see tygra?

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 28669)

because that's when he was alone. If you want to speak privately with someone you don't do it when you're around everyone.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28670)

She said I heard what happen in the AP, that tells you tygra was not around when cheetara heard what happen. He was out there for a while.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 28672)

Well ok there's an answer right there. She could've waited to go to Tygra because She was listening to Lion-O tell everyone what happened. And she probably thought about the story for a little while before coming to the conclusion that she was partly at fault. And then she went to see Tygra.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28661)

I do, they have no contact for 8 years. Have you done something for someone a long time ago? How did you thank them? You are not going to kiss anyone now; that would make your husband mad.

I disagree with a hug and kiss on the cheek; she wanted him to understand it meant a lot. I don’t think a hug or kiss on the cheek would’ve got the point across. It is just not about the kiss, it is about the dialogue. She said I owe you a thank you, she didn’t say I chose you tygra and kissed.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28661)

I am fine if she ends up with neither, that is how I went into the series. Not until they started all the L/C stuff did I want that. I don't belive you when you say you hope neither one gets her. Your post clearly says you want T/C.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28661)

Cheetara is cleric first. See right there “misconstrued encouragement” every thunder cat disagrees with you, even your tygra did. She was flirting everyone else sees it except you.

All T/C have is a flower moment then the rest of 8 years is crickets, that is nothing. L/C have chemistry and it started at E1.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28661)

Well I thought husbands and wifes kisses are more passionate. :)

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28635)

Smart, why torture youself.

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28679)

its the only temporally solution i can think of until the real fix airs.
The entire betrayal thing was a cliffhanger anyway, since it was not clear.
I will think of it like that for now, while we wait for ep14.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28675)

So it took lion-o all day to tell her everything, that is weak. You just said they had to be alone and everyone was together. So now you are saying it took lion-o along time to tell cheetara and for her to think it over. I don't buy it. Cheetara was thinking about when she heard Annet.

Lion-o would say nothing bad about tygra, so he woud've told them about the stone and mummra.

What makes it weak is you take out Annet's prediction. It was no coincident that she went to him before evening bells.

You could see cheetara's face after she heard his prediction, she was upset and thinking.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28667)

No one stop either one, because neither one was interested in each other. She said it in her dialogue, I owe you a thank you. She didn't say tygra I chose you and kiss him. If she chose him, she has no reason to say I owe you a thank you.

No, because he wanted her acknowledgement of the flower. Tygra didn't want lion-o to be with cheetara, because he thougth lion-o had no attachment to cheetara (flower).

Why did cheetara wait until the evening bell to see tygra?

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28682)

Because Cheetara is a good person like per her actress said, not stirring the pot, so she allowed Tygra to kiss her. She will not hurt Tygra's feelings, Anet "Betrayal" prophecy is one of the reasons she went to Tygra:

1. To prevent the betrayal or "betrayal"
2. To actually say thank you to Tygra and that she's not forgetting his past good deeds to her
3. To Protect Lion-O because she really cares for him too aside form the duty to the king thing

Originally Posted by Eclipse (Post 28677)

I disagree, you already read why. To me, it's more than enough. I was not raised to kiss men on the lips unless my feelings went well beyond friendship. I'm raising my girls the same way.



After the kiss, yes, I want that couple or no couple. I don't like the ambiguity. If I wanted my kids to watch daytime soaps, I'd be showing them that. I'm finally steering them away from the Barbie movies, and really don't need this. Not that the writers will necessarily accomodate me or anyone else, but I still worry about the message that might come across. One thing is an adult interpreting the whole deal, the other are children under ten and half that age, especially little girls for whom Cheetara means the world.

We shall see how it is handled. Most theories end up with me having a sit-down with them and talking about this. Not cool.



Wrong. I thought she had chosen Lion-O too. When I mentioned her flirting could be taken as misconstrued encouragement, I meant after the fact, i.e., after the kiss. That didn't need a sit-down.



You tone it down a notch or ten in front of them as soon as you realize they talk about their families to their teachers. Wait and see :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 28681)

I never said all day. It only takes maybe 2 hours for it to go from daylight to nighttime. an hour to tell the story, and an hour to think it over. makes sense to me. and he would've told them that they fought (but not necessarily about her) because she she said she feared she contributed to the fighting. If Lion-O had only told her about the stone and Mumm-ra how would she know about the fighting at all?

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28679)

Its the only temporally solution I can think of until the real fix airs.
The entire betrayal thing was a cliffhanger anyway, since it was not clear.
I will think of it like that for now, while we wait for Ep14.

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28682)

Because Cheetara is a good person like per her actress said, not stirring the pot, so she allowed Tygra to kiss her. She will not hurt Tygra's feelings, Anet "Betrayal" prophecy is one of the reasons she went to Tygra:

1. To prevent the betrayal or "betrayal"
2. To actually say thank you to Tygra and that she's not forgetting his past good deeds to her
3. To Protect Lion-O because she really cares for him too aside form the duty to the king thing

provided it was not an illusion.

Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28683)

agreed

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28688)

Right! And since she did not want to hurt Tygra's feelings, this applies to Lion-O too in Ep14 and beyond. she will know that Lion-O is hurting inside with or without Lion-O telling her, it could be like this, if he is not mortally wounded:

Lion-O Practicing his sword moves alone at night, Cheetara approached him, calling Lion-O's name, Lion-O might respond, just leave me alone Cheetara, please while walking away, Cheetara will block his walking and move to the front of him, starting to explain everything and the past while giving Lion-O a deep hug. After all the explaining, Lion-O will be surprised and hug her back. Asking if Tygra is alright with it, She could say He's better now (Like it or not Tygra already starting to except this fact at the end of EP13, the writers wlll not waste Tygra's character development too), I told him the truth. Then maybe snarf will bump hard to Lion-O's back to make Lion-O kiss her, voilla the hot kiss happened.:D

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28689)

That you be nice.

I am interested how they are going to handle L/C talking about what happen. I would think lion-o would not want to talk to her for right now. What will she do?

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28690)

Like in my scenario above she will hold Lion-O in place with the deep hug:D

She can do the same to Tygra if her feelings are realy that strong fpr him after showing him the flower, put it back the writers could make her hug Tygra while explaining about the past, considering she's been intimate with Lion-O, but they did not.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28691)

That is only way I can see her holding him in place, unless she hit him with her pole.

That is why I think it was a thank you. She could have kissed him any time in the dialogue, but she didn't. She was vague too, which I believe will be cleared up in the next episodes.

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28692)

Wow that could be HOT, Cheetara hit him with her magic pole and explaining everything while sitting on top of him.:D

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28693)

Talk about about a high, low, and high.

He couldn't do anything about it.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28686)

I think both sides need E14.

It seem liked cheetara believe tygra would betray lion-o while lion-o didn't believe it. Suprise.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28695)

Has anyone thougth about what is the city the Kit and Kat want to go to?

I thought it might be the first settlement of all the animals.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28691)

She could have kissed him any time in the dialogue, but she didn't. She was vague too, which I believe will be cleared up in the next episodes.

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28696)

Indeed. So we can get the Lion-O/Cheetara developing more mostly.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 28699)

She kissed him at the end for the sake of the "cliffhanger" ending. If she had kissed him before the story Lion-O wouldn't have seen it. If he had seen the kiss before She went into the flashback story it wouldn't have felt right narratively.

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28698)

The City of Eldara. Where it's being filled with lots of money. Could be the city where we will find Bengali and the gang too.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28702)

Could it be the next thunderia?

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28692)

Wow that could be HOT, Cheetara hit him with her magic pole and explaining everything while sitting on top of him.:D

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28692)

Wow that could be HOT, Cheetara hit him with her magic pole and explaining everything while sitting on top of him.:D

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28698)

The City of Eldara. Where it's being filled with lots of money. Could be the city where we will find Bengali and the gang too.

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28704)

If you look at the drawings the kiitens have, it looks like a city from FF12, Arcadia.

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28705)

That's no way to treat a king!:p

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28706)

A mysterious city of gold?

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28709)

Its one way to make him know his place. I am IN-CHARGE of this relationship.:D

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28710)

Good Idea. that will be awesome. kit and kat will be in AWE:eek:

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28712)

Better than candy fruit!:D

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28661)

Well I thought husbands and wifes kisses are more passionate. :)

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28714)

In the end this Ep 13 dreaded ending can work to our advantage.
Lion-O will really relize his feelings to Cheetara, then when Cheetara explain everthing including the connections, can make the scene really hot, Cheetara feeling guilty to Lion-O, maybe she will be really upset with herself while explaining to Lion-O, Lion-O could calm her down a bit by touching her hair and/or chin this could lead to a major lip lock. :D with or without Snarf's help.

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28715)

In any case if T/C feelings are that strong, she will move in for the kiss first or at least both of them.

She has no problem at all with doing the cheek kiss with Lion-O spontaneously with no waiting game or hesitation, logic dictates she should do the the same with Tygra, but she didn't.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28716)

I am hoping lion-o does hear her feelings. We have only heard L/T feelings. It would be nice if is was lion-o helping and listening. I think that would mean a lot of her.

Wouldn't be mess up if they were leaning into kiss and snarf does something and they only hug.:(

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28718)

Maybe this time Lion-O will be the more active participant of the engagement, he will kiss the really upset with herself Cheetara before she really finishes with her explaining, since Lion-O has man up!

If they are only hugging then Snarf will definetly do somethimng about it. Snarf can see that Lion-O is really broken hearted. he will nudge/hit Lion-O to kiss her in the lips.