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cmangund 02-14-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 35463)
I just hope the triangle doesn't go 52 episodes.:mad:

I hope so too.

If that's the case we just need to skip the show and watch directly Ep 52. So we will only have to watch Ep1-12 then jump directly to 52. Provided the show will survive to that point.


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L08e16o 02-14-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35460)
Shame that Jelenic didn't have the sense to ask for help when be was writing this triangle.

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 35461)
Exactly, but the good news is they will do similar thing to L/C, no need that much of a reason for cheetara to pick Lion-O in the near future.:D

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Here is another thing for you, they were worried about lion-o being ok with T/C. Lion-o lied and said he was happy for them and they were shocked and happy.

If cheetara was worried about it, what does that say. She knew what she was doing.

cmangund 02-14-2012 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35465)
Yep its only a matter of time before L/C get together, and we will all be expected to forget all the crap Cheat-tara pulled on Lion-o and Tygra.

haha:D the Cheat-tara HOOOO!.


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L08e16o 02-14-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 35468)
I hope so too.

If that's the case we just need to skip the show and watch directly Ep 52. So we will only have to watch Ep1-12 then jump directly to 52. Provided the show will survive to that point.

I don't know if I can go back and watch 1-12, she was just helping him. :confused:

L08e16o 02-14-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35467)
Well on the bright side, based on how Jelenic handles the triangle, we could go till the 48th episode before the triangle rears its ugly head again.:p

I hope not.

L08e16o 02-14-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35465)
Yep its only a matter of time before L/C get together, and we will all be expected to forget all the crap Cheat-tara pulled on Lion-o and Tygra.

They better give a good reason why.

cmangund 02-14-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 35470)
Here is another thing for you, they were worried about lion-o being ok with T/C. Lion-o lied and said he was happy for them and they were shocked and happy.

If cheetara was worried about it, what does that say. She knew what she was doing.

Then the look on her face when Lion-O ran of to his death. Another guilt to Cheetara, the Cheetara conflicting feelings (despite only care for close friends still feelings) theory again.

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stormbringer 02-14-2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 35470)
Here is another thing for you, they were worried about lion-o being ok with T/C. Lion-o lied and said he was happy for them and they were shocked and happy.

If cheetara was worried about it, what does that say. She knew what she was doing.

More evidence to support my theory of Cheetara being an utterly selfish woman with little regard for anyone. Seriously, how does Jelenic expect people to see her?:confused:

cmangund 02-14-2012 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35476)
More evidence to support my theory of Cheetara being an utterly selfish woman with little regard for anyone. Seriously, how does Jelenic expect people to see her?:confused:

She's a bad role model for kids, for sure.

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L08e16o 02-14-2012 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 35475)
Then the look on her face when Lion-O ran of to his death. Another guilt to Cheetara, the Cheetara conflicting feelings (despite only care for close friends still feelings) theory again.

Well the writers will make her forget it even happen.

cmangund 02-14-2012 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 35478)
Well the writers will make her forget it even happen.

Yeah another bad writing.

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L08e16o 02-14-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35476)
More evidence to support my theory of Cheetara being an utterly selfish woman with little regard for anyone. Seriously, how does Jelenic expect people to see her?:confused:

My thing is when did jaga tell her to help him? Before he went to the slums, he wouldn't know mummra was coming. That was not a spoiler, MJ could've said that at comic con.

stormbringer 02-14-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 35475)
Then the look on her face when Lion-O ran of to his death. Another guilt to Cheetara, the Cheetara conflicting feelings (despite only care for close friends still feelings) theory again.

Man, Lion-o and Tygra better watch their backs around Cheetara. She's deadly without even trying to be.:p

L08e16o 02-14-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 35479)
Yeah another bad writing.

Kit was the only one crying.

cmangund 02-14-2012 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 35474)
They better give a good reason why.

I wouldn't worry to much of the reason, now seeing the quality of the story, I just wanted for L/C to happen properly that's all as a proper closure to the 12Eps buildup.

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cmangund 02-14-2012 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35481)
Man, Lion-o and Tygra better watch their backs around Cheetara. She's deadly without even trying to be.:p

The ones with the coolest backside wins.:D

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stormbringer 02-14-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 35477)
She's a bad role model for kids, for sure.

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Yeah she would work better on a soap opera. They're full of morally gray characters like her.

L08e16o 02-14-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 35483)
I wouldn't worry to much of the reason, now seeing the quality of the story, I just wanted for L/C to happen properly that's all as a proper closure to the 12Eps buildup.

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I agree. If they don't then she is just a love interest for the love trianlge. Cheetara is more than that.

You know naruto has holes, but the main characters do not have any holes to thier stories. The B characters do, there are just so many characters and there are 573 chapters.

cmangund 02-14-2012 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35486)
Yeah she would work better on a soap opera. They're full of morally gray characters like her.

Yeah like "friends" and similar shows.

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L08e16o 02-14-2012 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35486)
Yeah she would work better on a soap opera. They're full of morally gray characters like her.

Don't forget these are the writers doing this to her.

stormbringer 02-14-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 35482)
Kit was the only one crying.

Well that settles it, Kit is the only one Lion-o can trust. Maybe Lion-o needs to train on the book for 5 years, come back and get together with a teenage Wilykit.:p

L08e16o 02-14-2012 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35490)
Well that settles it, Kit is the only one Lion-o can trust. Maybe Lion-o needs to train on the book for 5 years, come back and get together with a teenage Wilykit.:p

I didn't say the whole thing. She was crying and Kat calm her down. Cheetara told her there will be a time for mourning. They were captured.

cmangund 02-14-2012 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 35487)
I agree.

You know naruto has holes, but the main characters do not have any holes to thier stories. The B characters do, there are just so many characters and there are 573 chapters.

Yeah we just need to look elsewhere for proper ship and story.:D I already start watching Batman the animated series again. the bat/cats ship the bat/zatana ship, bat/andrea ship, bat/talia ship before moving on the grand finale BM/WW ship. All the ships are proper with bats Timm/Dini/Mcduffie stories, not like Tcats.

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stormbringer 02-14-2012 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 35489)
Don't forget these are the writers doing this to her.

Which makes me wonder what their goal is with her. They could write a soap Opera like this, but for a kid friendly show, Cheetara comes across as a villain.

stormbringer 02-14-2012 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 35491)
I didn't say the whole thing. She was crying and Kat calm her down. Cheetara told her there will be a time for mourning. They were captured.

Well at least Cheetara managed to voice some concern. But I doubt she'll take any responsibility for her part in his death. Like I said yesterday, Lion-o the kids and Snarf should ditch the rest of them.

cmangund 02-14-2012 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35493)
Which makes me wonder what their goal is with her. They could write a soap Opera like this, but for a kid friendly show, Cheetara comes across as a villain.

The "official" kid friendly 6-11 part is just for kids to buy the toys. But the real official objective is this show is aimed to more of PG 13 movie and higher, like DCAU serious cartoons (BTAS to JLU) or sitcoms. In my oppinion.

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L08e16o 02-14-2012 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35493)
Which makes me wonder what their goal is with her. They could write a soap Opera like this, but for a kid friendly show, Cheetara comes across as a villain.

Well she doesn't look good. She could have said sorry lion-o if I was leading you on, but she didn't. She went to tygra, but lion-o had to go to her.

L08e16o 02-14-2012 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35493)
Which makes me wonder what their goal is with her. They could write a soap Opera like this, but for a kid friendly show, Cheetara comes across as a villain.

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 35495)
The "official" kid friendly 6-11 part is just for kids to buy the toys. But the real official objective is this show is aimed to more of PG 13 movie and higher, like DCAU serious cartoons (BTAS to JLU) or sitcoms. In my oppinion.

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Well the butt comment from tygra would be something a older male would say, not a show for kids.

L08e16o 02-14-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35494)
Well at least Cheetara managed to voice some concern. But I doubt she'll take any responsibility for her part in his death. Like I said yesterday, Lion-o the kids and Snarf should ditch the rest of them.

You would hope something comes of it. She went to tygra over the AP, will she go to lion-o over his death?

What sucks is lion-o almost got killed in the AP.

stormbringer 02-14-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 35495)
The "official" kid friendly 6-11 part is just for kids to buy the toys. But the real official objective is this show is aimed to more of PG 13 movie and higher, like DCAU serious cartoons (BTAS to JLU) or sitcoms. In my oppinion.

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Sadly though they don't seem to able to write at that level. The show started off well, but the triangle brings the show down.

L08e16o 02-14-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35494)
Well at least Cheetara managed to voice some concern. But I doubt she'll take any responsibility for her part in his death. Like I said yesterday, Lion-o the kids and Snarf should ditch the rest of them.

I think she did that due to the situation. They were trying to be strong for the kids.

E16 will tell us about how they feel about his death.

cmangund 02-14-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35499)
Sadly though they don't seem to able to write at that level. The show started off well, but the triangle brings the show down.

Yeah really really sad.

The characterizations and story officially so bad now. Nothing can fix that. So I will just wait for the Ep where L/C happened and be done with the show. No buying blurays or other TCATS stuff realated to Jelenic and crew anymore or their future works.

Now if only we will get a new reboot of TCATS with a team that respects the OS, respects the characters, WB should just call in all the surviving members of the OS crew and producers. One can always hope...

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stormbringer 02-14-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 35497)
Well the butt comment from tygra would be something a older male would say, not a show for kids.

My jaw dropped on that one. That was definately a teen and up line there, and it doesn't really make Tygra look good saying it. Maybe the writers put that in there to shoe an example of a girl choosing s jerk over the nice guy, but the thing is, after how Cheetara treated Lion-o a lot of viewers probably feel she deserves the jerk.

cmangund 02-14-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35502)
My jaw dropped on that one. That was definately a teen and up line there, and it doesn't really make Tygra look good saying it. Maybe the writers put that in there to shoe an example of a girl choosing s jerk over the nice guy, but the thing is, after how Cheetara treated Lion-o a lot of viewers probably feel she deserves the jerk.

That there shows exactly Tygra's level of feelings of seeing Cheetara as a "thing", Lion-O will never do that to her, his feelings are pure.

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stormbringer 02-14-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 35503)
That there shows exactly Tygra's level of feelings of seeing Cheetara as a "thing", Lion-O will never do that to her, his feelings are pure.

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Yep Cheetara is going to regret choosing Tygra over Lion-o, I just hope when she comes running to him he tells her to get lost.

cmangund 02-14-2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35504)
Yep Cheetara is going to regret choosing Tygra over Lion-o, I just hope when she comes running to him he tells her to get lost.

Lion-O making it hard for Cheetara. Fair play.:D


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stormbringer 02-14-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 35501)
Yeah really really sad.

The characterizations and story officially so bad now. Nothing can fix that. So I will just wait for the Ep where L/C happened and be done with the show. No buying blurays or other TCATS stuff realated to Jelenic and crew anymore or their future works.

Now if only we will get a new reboot of TCATS with a team that respects the OS, respects the characters, WB should just call in all the surviving members of the OS crew and producers. One can always hope...

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Maybe they should do a sequel to the OS, showing a rebuilt New Thunderan civilization ruled by King Lion-o and Queen Cheetara.

L08e16o 02-14-2012 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 35501)
Yeah really really sad.

The characterizations and story officially so bad now. Nothing can fix that. So I will just wait for the Ep where L/C happened and be done with the show. No buying blurays or other TCATS stuff realated to Jelenic and crew anymore or their future works.

Now if only we will get a new reboot of TCATS with a team that respects the OS, respects the characters, WB should just call in all the surviving members of the OS crew and producers. One can always hope...

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I will be dead when they get the next rebot.

L08e16o 02-14-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35502)
My jaw dropped on that one. That was definately a teen and up line there, and it doesn't really make Tygra look good saying it. Maybe the writers put that in there to shoe an example of a girl choosing s jerk over the nice guy, but the thing is, after how Cheetara treated Lion-o a lot of viewers probably feel she deserves the jerk.

The kids heard it and didn't like it.

L08e16o 02-14-2012 09:00 PM

It will be interesting how 16 plays out.

L08e16o 02-14-2012 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35504)
Yep Cheetara is going to regret choosing Tygra over Lion-o, I just hope when she comes running to him he tells her to get lost.

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 35505)
Lion-O making it hard for Cheetara. Fair play.:D


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You know he would never do that. Depending how you view the spirit cheetara, he still has very strong feelings for her.

cmangund 02-14-2012 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35494)
Well at least Cheetara managed to voice some concern. But I doubt she'll take any responsibility for her part in his death. Like I said yesterday, Lion-o the kids and Snarf should ditch the rest of them.

That will be one of the worst part. I don't care for Lion-O, I only care for Tygra, pathetic.

Even Bats got really emotional when WW got crushed by a missile, kept on digging and digging until his hands and gloves damaged by the heat of the missile. WW the same to bats when he almost died because of the plant thing. And other countless occasions.


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cmangund 02-14-2012 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35506)
Maybe they should do a sequel to the OS, showing a rebuilt New Thunderan civilization ruled by King Lion-o and Queen Cheetara.

That will be so :cool:! Just continue the OS.


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L08e16o 02-14-2012 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 35511)
That will be one of the worst part. I don't care for Lion-O, I only care for Tygra, pathetic.

Even Bats got really emotional when WW got crushed by a missile, kept on digging and digging until his hands and gloves damaged by the heat of the missile. WW the same to bats when he almost died because of the plant thing.

Hopefully we get to see how they react to his death. They might throw a party, they finally rid themselves of the lions.:D

stormbringer 02-14-2012 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 35510)
You know he would never do that. Depending how you view the spirit cheetara, he still has very strong feelings for her.

Yeah Lion-o still loves her, nothing like loving the worst possible person for you. A feeling Cheetara is going to know by being with Tygra.:D

L08e16o 02-14-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 35514)
Yeah Lion-o still loves her, nothing like loving the worst possible person for you. A feeling Cheetara is going to know by being with Tygra.:D

I have been there. I am glad those days are over.

Kishi has sakura still loves sasuke even though he tried to kill her 2 times. Naruto has done everything for her and she still likes sasuke. Only difference, sakura got to know him.

cmangund 02-14-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 35510)
You know he would never do that. Depending how you view the spirit cheetara, he still has very strong feelings for her.

Yeah he won't. He is always a true hero.:cool:

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L08e16o 02-14-2012 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 35517)
Yeah he won't. He is always a true hero.:cool:

Lesson could be, nice guys finish last.

stormbringer 02-14-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 35512)
That will be so :cool:! Just continue the OS.


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Yep I think that's what most of the thunderdads would prefer, and I'm sure the kids would like it. The NS show is like the comics, a complete disgrace.

cmangund 02-14-2012 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 35513)
Hopefully we get to see how they react to his death. They might throw a party, they finally rid themselves of the lions.:D

Hooray, all hail Tygra, Tygra!:mad:
PATHETIC BEYOND BELIEVE!

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