Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33546)

So you are fine with the same predictable bad guy cast?

I like the idea, because it is different. I never thougth T/L would be brothers.

I am sure we will see the other bad guys though.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33540)

I was hoping Bengali and Pumyra were bad guys to start off. Lynxo didn't start with them, so maybe they will have different roles.

It would be so obvious if they were the alliance for the TC. I think it would be better if they were mummra's new alliance, that would be a surprising debut.

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 33563)

Another twist in the tale, which is their MO. Liked that idea.:D

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33565)

Thanks.

If they are the alliance for the cats, it would be the same old same. They said pumyra would enter soon. That would be a shocker if she is an enemy.

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 33568)

It is a :cool: idea.

And inline with what Jelenic said on their take for Pumyra is different than the OS one.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33569)

True and we get our first real cat fight. I think she will take cheetara down.

I think Bengali will probably take down L/T.

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 33572)

Lion-o can start to fall for Pumyra, and start to ignore Cheetara the tease.:p

Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 33576)

anoyone see this before

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 33579)

What episode is that from?

Originally Posted by Ravenxl7 (Post 33573)

Personally I hope they don't make any more of the cats a part of Mumm-Ra's following. I wouldn't want to see them be exactly as they were in the original, but making them evil would be going too far, imho. Maybe make them reluctant to help out Lion-O and crew.

I also really want to see all the old villains return in some form or another. They can make them new and interesting without needing to change their alliance. We already know Jackalman is on his way (though under a new name), and I think Vultureman has been mentioned. Would be cool to see Slithe, Jackalman, and Monkian bickering with each other in the new show at some point.

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 33572)

Lion-o can start to fall for Pumyra, and start to ignore Cheetara the tease.:p

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33602)

Ho-hum, same old same.

Why would it go to far?

Sticking to the same routine would be the OS, with new design.

We have 39 episode where they could start off bad and then become good in the end.

All the cats served mummra, wouldn't that be going to far?

Originally Posted by Ravenxl7 (Post 33604)

I"m not saying don't change anything, just that I don't see the need to make them evil. There's plenty of ways to make the characters different from the original show without changing everything about them.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33605)

You didn't read my part where they started off bad and then become good.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33605)

Everyone expects B/P are going to be good guys, I think it would be great if they started off bad.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33605)

I don't believe all the cats sided with Leo. He betrayed them, even though he freed them. He chose the animals over the cats. I believe some of those cats are still out there. B/P could be apart of that group.

Originally Posted by Ravenxl7 (Post 33606)

I did, just didn't feel the need to reply to it.


I don't think they should start out "good", or "bad" for that matter. I think they should start out neutral, wanting to keep to themselves, and then something later on forces them to get involved.


As far as I see it, he didn't betray the other cats, he freed them too. While Mumm-Ra was treating them much better than the other animals, I can't imagine serving him came with that many perks. They were still trapped under his tyranny. I think the split, if it at all happened, would have been sometime after the fall of Mumm-Ra, for some other reason. Either way, it's been long enough that I doubt the other group/tribe (assuming there actually is another) has most likely long forgotten about it all by now (it's clear the one's that eventually inhabited Thundera had long forgotten about the past).

Please, let's just agree to disagree. Neither one of us is going to change our opinions, and all this is theoretical till the show continues anyways. No point in continuing to argue over it.

Originally Posted by Ravenxl7 (Post 33609)

Edit: Forget it...

Originally Posted by Ravenxl7 (Post 33606)

I did, just didn't feel the need to reply to it.


I don't think they should start out "good", or "bad" for that matter. I think they should start out neutral, wanting to keep to themselves, and then something later on forces them to get involved.


As far as I see it, he didn't betray the other cats, he freed them too. While Mumm-Ra was treating them much better than the other animals, I can't imagine serving him came with that many perks. They were still trapped under his tyranny. I think the split, if it at all happened, would have been sometime after the fall of Mumm-Ra, for some other reason. Either way, it's been long enough that I doubt the other group/tribe (assuming there actually is another) has most likely long forgotten about it all by now (it's clear the one's that eventually inhabited Thundera had long forgotten about the past).

Please, let's just agree to disagree. Neither one of us is going to change our opinions, and all this is theoretical till the show continues anyways. No point in continuing to argue over it.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33607)

Ok.

I do disagree with your comment about other tribes, cheetara proved that. Something destroyed her village.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33620)

No one ever said Cheetara came from a different village. She was from Thundera just like the rest of them. What she said was she had no Clan. No family. In other words she was an orphan.
Thundera was walled off and secluded. It didn't have little villages of cats surrounding it.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33603)

Already?

You would have a backlash with the B/P fans.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33615)

What villian do you want to see first for the new alliance?[/Q

The Lunatacs would be cool.

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 33622)

I think Lion- o/ Pumyra could have a flirtation, and Cheetara could maybe start to get jealous. If the writers are going to drag out this triangle throughout the series, something is going to have to extend it.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33624)

I agree.

How will they handle the Bengali/pumyra fans?

I hope the triangle is at least over by 26.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33621)

If she was from thundera, why didn't she know where the clerics live?

Everyone would talk about the palace and the clerics.

I am not from DC, but I know where the White House is.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33624)

I agree.

How will they handle the Bengali/pumyra fans?

I hope the triangle is at least over by 26.

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 33625)

Bengali and Pumyra could always get together shortly after Lion-o and Pumyra realize their not each others real love. And I hope the triangle is wrapped up by ep 26 too, something like that can get old pretty quick.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33626)

You know where the White House is. She knew where the Palace was.

Do you know where exactly oval office is? Do you know where the secret service stays?

Just because she lives in the city doesn't mean she's ever been to the palace. And it definitely doesn't mean she's ever been on the grounds to know where everything is.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33627)

Why would they have to "handle" Bengali/Pumyra fans?

They don't have to please every single fan. If they tried they would fail.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33629)

I might actually know that.

Is the oval office outside like the cleric building?

This has been her dream since she was a cub and she doesn't know where the clerics are.

I been a Steelers fans since 5 and I know almost everything about them.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33630)

Let see, ratings are more important anything.

If there was going to be any romacne in this show, I would've guessed B/P would be it.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33631)

She's still a kid at that point. And an orphan.
They don't have internet or technology. She'd only know what she had been told about the palace by whoever was taking care of her (if anyone else WAS taking care of her). They don't let just anyone on the grounds. That's why Tygra was guarding the entryway in the first place. Only people with the "proper seals" were allowed past. She just ran past him.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33632)

I'm sure the ratings don't depend solely on the approval of fans of B/P.

The target audience is 6-11 year olds. Don't forget that. and most of the kids watching will not have seen the OS. They won't know the characters.

How are they "handling" L/C fans right now after the ending of episode 13?

Of course ratings are important. But for that to even be a credible argument you'd have to assume that B/P fans are the majority of the audience and that they'd all quit the show if it didn't happen. Which I'd be more than willing to bet isn't the case.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33633)

Internet has nothing to do with me knowing where the oval office is. My home office is at crystal city in DC. We know where the building are and some of the offices.

Clerics are legends, everyone would talk about them. Eveyone would know where the palace and clerics temple would be.

I agree that proper seals could pass, he did say that. That is one thing, but knowing where the clerics are, is another.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33635)

All we know about the L/C/T is a triangle, those three is what the WB boss said.

B/P are all together different. They have no time to develop L/P, they could already have B/P knowing each other like in the OS.

Your right, but they did say thunderdads would be happy too.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33637)

Could you, living in DC, go to the white house and go exactly where you want without needing any directions?

Also you don't know what everyone in Thundera talks about. I, for one, didn't hear anyone in the talk about the clerics, so saying everyone talks about them is an assumption.

The internet and technology part was more for the Steelers than White house. If there was no technology, there'd be no TV, no radio, no computers. You'd have probably have never even heard of the Steelers much less know everything about them because without all the media the whole football league would be scaled down because they wouldn't have the same amount of people watching.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33638)

btw I'm not saying Lion-O has to end up with Pumyra either. My argument is that Bengali and Pumyra don't have to be a couple.

But if L/P did happen, they have plenty of time. The whole L/C thing you love happened in 13 episodes. There's still at least 3 times that many episodes left.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33639)

First of all, we are talking about a buiding, not inside.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33641)

The palace didn't have any outside buildings. Everything was connected. It just had separate entrances. Like a mall or an apartment building.

http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/5214/palace.jpg

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33639)

See that is where your assumption is off. Word of mouth. My mother worked with a guy whoes son worked at 3 rivers stadium. That is what started it for me.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33644)

word of mouth has a way of being incorrectly passed on or exaggerated.
And even if they do talk about the Clerics, do you really think they spend their time talking about where they live instead of the interesting things they can do or have done? I mean exactly, precisely where at the palace they live? instead of just saying "Oh the clerics live at the palace"

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33643)

The point is, it had a outside entrance. It was not inside, I just watched it again. It has the cleric Statues in front of it. That would be a dead give away.

One more thing about her being a orphan, why didn't she have a tail like kit and kat?

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33646)

I just watched it again too. From where they were standing the "foot" of the giant cat was blocking the view of the statues until they walked up to it.


Just because she's an orphan doesn't mean she has to have a tail. The tails were explained as a birth defect.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33647)

From their view. You are telling me no one ever passed it and never mention where it is.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33648)

I'm saying it's perfectly possible that in a huge place like Thundera someone who was an orphan might not've been taught exactly where the clerics stayed at the palace.

Heck anyone she actually asked could've looked down at her for being an orphan and told her she'd never become a cleric and refuse to tell her where it is. The people in the Thunderian slums didn't seem like the nicest bunch of people.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33648)

I'm saying it's perfectly possible that in a huge place like Thundera someone who was an orphan might not've been taught exactly where the clerics stayed at the palace.

Heck anyone she actually asked could've looked down at her for being an orphan and told her she'd never become a cleric and refuse to tell her where it is. The people in the Thunderian slums didn't seem like the nicest bunch of people.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33652)

Another topic.

Do you think they will bring all the animals in at once for mummra (Monkian, Jackalman, and Vultureman) for his alliance?